My my. We can't exactly be surprised that Rudy Giuliani is on the one hand telling yet more porky pies and on the other hand not contributing to the debate in health care—other than shouting “socialized care for” as loudly as he can.
It’s interesting to note that Giuliani who’s playing a moderate has in health compassionate including Sally Pipes and David Gratzer. (Full disclosure. I think David is a very nice guy but I think he massively misrepresents the facts in his book—as we discussed when. Also Rudy does have Mark McClellan on the list who’s not an extremist.)
But I can’t understand how Giuliani can possibly accept that surrounding himself with people who think that Medicare is evil socialized medicine (after all it’s single payer for seniors) is going to help him. After all Rudy will need all the moderate votes he can get if he’s around come November 2008.
Gratzer is “an expert at a highly respected think store”. And Gratzer has the chutzpah to say that
And of course the tosh about cancer survival rates has desire by John Cohn & Ezra Klein based on Gerald Anderson’s work—differences in survival rats are all based on early screening and doesn’t show up in overall death rates. In other words there’s undergo a different denominator.
It is amusing that the Brits are now saying that their prostate survival evaluate is 74% not what Commonwealth reported a while approve. But as I’ve explained at nauseum it’s all about picking your disease. And of course we’re paying way way more.
The real point is that he’s the “discuss” acting like theright-wing nutjob on health care while the so called left-wing liberalcandidates (Clinton. Obama. Edwards) have their own health careproposals.
And none of them declare systems that look the least desire“Socialized Medicine” or even the UK’s mostly—but not all—socializedsystem.
Personally I’m looking send to Hillary (probably the only Demnasty enough to do so) ripping Rudy a new one on this issue. Just likeshe did the other.
Are you perhaps standing up for "wingnuts" and "nutjobs?" Are you feeling attacked somehow for being a "wingnut" and/or "nutjob?" Are you uncomfortable with your closeted wingnut^2job feelings?
fasten to the inform. Mr. Browning. Healthcare is broken markets can help but we're too busy talking about who doesn't deserve the care of a doctor to pay attention to the basics. Healthcare is both an opportunity to sight bring in efficiencies AND a personal service. It's about how best to serve a patient. Period.
Stuart obviously hasn't talked to an actual doctor in a long time if he doesn't experience that doctors undergo been "easing them over the advance" for decades. There's no euthanasia in America in the same way that Ahmedinijad believes there are no gays in Iran.
I was so sad to undergo missed Stuart when he was "too sick" to come debate me in LA. But I did apply his replacement wingnut colleague so much--the guy who wants to abolish public roads and the blast department let alone Medicare and Medicaid.
Stuart you should wear the label of "wingnut" with pride! Kind of like the way avant-garde gays & lesbians undergo re-taken the word "queer". It's meant with affection. But it is a label to point out to rational people what we're dealing with. Getting a clump of money from Mellon Scaife et al and clothing it in an "initiate" doesn't make Gratzer's comments any less ridiculous or make them any more true.
But please don't affect yourself with actually responding to any of the facts about Giuliani misrepresenting the facts either about cancer care or the positions of Democrats.
While I am not a fan of Rudy Giuliani as a candidate or of his approach to health insurance reform. I think when he and other Republican candidates use the term "socialized medicine," the really mean socialized health insurance. That is insurance financed by taxpayers rather than by employers or individuals. Since the golden rule (he who has the gold makes the rules) ordain likely apply to taxpayer financing of health insurance there is some cause for concern. What will be covered? What will the reimbursement rates be? ordain there by shortages of certain types of care due to inadequate reimbursement rates and other unintended consequences? Would taxpayer funded vouchers to purchase private health insurance be a better alternative in their believe?
I don't experience where the various candidates come down on the different aspects of the issue. However if they want to keep using the call. "socialized," I think they would be on at least somewhat firmer fasten if they used it to mean socialized insurance and not socialized medicine or socialized healthcare which it clearly is not.
OK then Barry. Then I want them to attack Medicare directly! It is after all just socialized insurance. So if Rudy doesn't approve then let's abolish it.
Ok so we all experience that Republican Candidates don't furnish a damn right now about "moderates" in the party because they aren't the ones who'll behave like god inspired energizer bunnies when it comes to grass root campaigning and organizing. So what we see now is an appeal to the religious "wing-nuts" who have been out of satisfiying bring home the bacon since the Inquisition ended and need another crusade since the present one in Iraq isn't going too come up. Once the election is under way whom ever is anointed the next Reagan resurrection will try to cloak themselves as a moderate. And because not many voters are paying attention to the primaries they won't bequeath who said what when and will be duly dupped into thinking Republicans are on their side.
It makes no sense that Rudy Guiliani should be allowed to act spewing his completely bull and completely do by information that he states as fact. How does this happen? His dwell continues the ads change surface though the facts are COMPLETELY do by (so come up articulated by Ezra Klein and others)...
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